Some Thoughts on DC’s New World Order

Robert Greenberger

Robert Greenberger is best known to comics fans as the editor of Who's Who In The DC Universe, Suicide Squad, and Doom Patrol. He's written and edited several Star Trek novels and is the author of The Essential Batman Encyclopedia. He's known for his work as an editor for Comics Scene, Starlog, and Weekly World News, as well as holding executive positions at both Marvel Comics and DC Comics.

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  1. One of the things that really irritates me about shared universes is how little editors and writers on various books coordinate characters’ appearances the last couple years.

    Look at Wolverine, Spider-Man and Deadpool for example. There’s no logical way to account for all of their cross-overs and guest appearances while maintaining any sort of integrity concerning their appearances in their own books.

    Even more minor characters that there shouldn’t be concern over are experiencing it. Last month, Mr. Hyde was the villain in the first issue of the new, terrible, Moon Knight series out in California…while simultaneously operating as a member of the Thunderbolts B team somewhere in the Middle East.

    • fantastapotamus says:

      If some people don’t read all the Avengers and X-Men books, plus Wolverine’s solo book(s) continuity between those three environments doesn’t really matter, it is only when you start looking at them all at the same time you pick up things like Mr. Hyde being in two places at once ( I had no idea he was on Thunderbolts so it didn’t raise a red flag for me).

      Wolverine even jokes in one of the recent Avengers books that “multitasking is my true mutant power” when someone asks how he can be on so many teams at the same time, so the publishing and creative side know full well what they are doing. It is partially our (the buyers) fault for supporting every book Spiderman or Wolverine get put in to, but at some point something’s gotta give…

      Personally, after 25 years of buying comics I am at a breaking point with the excessive multiple books for the same characters, as well as the constant relaunch / re-title / repackage that Marvel is doing.

      The launch of a new book used to be an event in and of itself, but how many #1 issues can you push out before you completely devalue the bold type “#1 collector’s issue” on the cover? Why would you go through the trouble of re-aligning the numbering on Daredevil, Man without Fear and Thor, just to sub in the Black Panther and change the title to Journey into Mystery.. and THEN launch new books for both the main characters? If you think I’m going to keep buying books about characters I don’t care about, you’ve got another thing coming. If I wanted to read about the panther, I would have bought his title when he had one.

      Their idiotic marketing scheme is going to start costing them business, and for me personally I’m cutting close to half of what I buy on a monthly basis, with the strong possibility of more to come.

  2. Jonathan (the other one) says:

    That would be the one upside I’d see to this – the opportunity to make sure that somebody is keeping track of these characters, and avoiding glaring continuity errors.

    I really don’t mind a lack of “fidelity”, at least to (in some cases) seventy years of continuity – rebooting some of these characters from the word “go” could be the best thing that’s ever happened to them, cutting them loose from restrictive and ridiculous bits of lore inserted back in the Bad Old Days of the Seventies and Eighties. Of course, it could also be the worst thing that’s ever happened to them, as whole new chunks of restrictive and ridiculous lore are inserted anew by writers more concerned with leaving a “legacy” on a title than just telling a good story…

    • mike weber says:

      I’ve always said that that was what made Batman TAS (and the “Adventures” books spun off from it) some of the best and freshest Batman material i’d ever read (and i’ve been reading it since the 50s), precisely because they were able to pick and choose what to use and what to ignore from all that back story, and did it well.