Country First, by Michael Davis
Martin Luther King was never a prisoner of war like John McCain. Nelson Mandela never flew a combat mission over Viet Nam like John McCain. Gandhi was never a commanding officer like John McCain.
According to right wing rhetoric, none of these people would be able to lead in America for they would be attacked for their lack of experience. What all of these people share with Barack Obama is the ability to inspire other people.
I am not suggesting that Obama is in any way in the league of those above, but there is something to be said for inspiring people.
Some people like the Republicans don’t see that. This from The party of Lincoln, as they like to say. The “party of Lincoln.” Wow, that is saying something. They always bring that up when they want to make a point.
Lincoln was President in 1861. It’s now 2008. That party is over.
How over? Lincoln is known for one thing and one thing only to the masses: he freed the slaves. He gave black people their freedom in this country. Did you see the sea of faces at the Republican convention? There were thousands of people there, and I’m not kidding when I say this: it looked like you could count the black people on two hands. How is it possible that the Republican Party frees black people from bondage and black people stay away from the Republican Party like Stevie Wonder stays away from driving the Indy 500?
I watched the “Country first” video that the RNC produced and showed at the convention. When images of Ronald Regan, Barbara Bush and McCain were on the screen the crowd went wild. When images of Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks were seen… nothing.
No applause. No reaction. Nothing.
Don’t take my word for it. Find that video on You Tube and see for yourself. What does that mean? It means that a great American hero like Martin Luther King gets no love from the convention attendees. Does that mean that the Republican Party as a whole has no respect or love for black people?
No, it does not mean that but when the world is watching and you clap for Reagan and not for King it may not answer the question why most black people don’t vote Republican, but it sure does looks bad.
On the videos produced for the convention, there were a LOT of black people. In fact, there were more black people on those videos than live in Harlem. Are we to believe from those videos that black people are a major part of the GOP?
Hey, I rent videos from Blockbuster and I have yet to believe Ghost Busters.
To be fair I did see some black people in the hall. They looked a bit tied down. In fact, I wonder if they were tied down? I could not see their feet. Thatwould explain why they were there. Hey the GOP is the “party of Lincoln” maybe during the closing ceremonies they will free them from their chairs to great fan fare!
I kid. I joke. I know that those people were not tied down. They wanted to be there… the Republicans serve chicken.
I want to take a deeper look at the whole “inspire” thing. Let’s see now, what good has come from the ability to inspire?
How about The United States of America? Were we not inspired to rise up to declare our independence? Did Gandhi not inspire a nation and, in fact, the world? Did Martin Luther King not change the world with his inspiration?
There was a time when our example inspired the world. Inspiration used to be a good thing in this country.
I like John McCain, I really do. I can tell you truthfully that what he went though in that POW camp would have most likely broken me in five minutes. He is a real hero, I mean a no joke bona fide hero.
I’m not a hero but every so often I do something stupid which is viewed as heroic. A few years ago I was walking to my car after leaving a party. In the parking lot there was a young women being harassed by two guys. I asked if everything was all right and she just looked at me with tears in her eyes and fear on her face. The two guys turned to me and told me to mind my “f-ing business.” I looked again at the woman and she silently mouthed the word “please.” I walked over to the woman and told her I would walk her to her car. The two guys started yelling at me and following us while we walked. When she got to her car she was shaking too much to open the door. I took the keys from her hand and as I did I was hit in the back of my head. When I turned around, I was hit in the face.
I tried to kick the guy that was hitting me and for my troubles I was stabbed in my thigh. The two guys ran away because the woman started screaming like crazy. When the EMTs got there I was told I was a hero. Hero my ass, I was just trying to help a woman who looked like she needed a friend. This was one of a few times when I stepped into this kind of foolishness. Every time I assumed that the outcome would be non-life threatening. So clearly I did not know the extent of my stupidity.
John McCain knew what he was getting into when he joined the Navy. He knew there would be trouble when he got into his plane to fly combat missions. In fact, he went looking for that very trouble. In that parking lot that night, I went looking for my car.
Would I have stepped up if I knew I would be hurt? I like to think so but can’t say for sure. As I said I’m not a hero but the woman saw me as such, the EMTs saw me as such and my girlfriend at the time saw me as such (I told her there were 12 guys and they all had guns. I’m not a hero but I’m far from stupid. THAT was a good night.)
John McCain is a hero. I’m not. However, if McCain should be elected on just that fact then I should be made Los Angeles Chief of Police. During the convention Fred Thompson made the case that McCain’s time, as a POW is important because it shows his character. Again I’m too chicken shit to even imagine being in a POW camp and character is important but is it more important than inspiration? Bill Bennett, a GOP mainstay, said on CNN that America does not care as much about the issues as they do character. Bennett says that in the end people vote for character.
I find that funny. Bill Clinton had a zillion women come out and say they slept with him when he first ran for President. America did not care. He won. Then when he was President the Republicans tried their best to impeach him because of his cigar moment with Monica in the White House. America did not care. The country rose up and said “Hell no!” You know why? Because things were good.
When things are good you can get away with just about anything when you are in the White House. Ask Bill Clinton.
Why are the Republicans so big on character? Because they have f**ked up the country for the last 8 years and they got nothing else to talk about. I think the ability to inspire people shows great character. But you won’t hear that from the right.
So that character argument is just bullshit.
The GOP talks about “family values” and will crush anyone who they see has a lack of moral judgment. BUT they defend Sarah Palin’s seventeen-year-old daughter’s pregnancy. These from the people who HATE teenage pregnancy and cast a “failure” tag on parents whose kids that get into this type of trouble.
Sarah Palin has taken a position on no sex education in school and abstinence as Governor and is bitching (yep, I said bitching) about the questions surrounding her on this issue. It’s a fair question. This woman condemns the type of behavior and now expects a pass when she is called on it because it’s in her family. Well she sure missed the boat on that one. Maybe she should have thought twice about the sex education idea because clearly her kid needed to hear about the birds and the bees from someone.
Now they applaud the decision to “have the baby” and welcome the pending marriage of the expecting couple. These kids are eighteen and seventeen, that’s a great age to be married right?
Good thing she belongs to the NRA. Can you say “Shotgun Wedding?’
By the way, isn’t seventeen underage? Why has the father not been arrested like Genarlow Wilson was?
Most likely because Genarlow Wilson was not in the “club.” It’s hard to get into that club; the Republican Party is not one for inclusion unless you agree with every single thing they are about. Remember George Bush talking about the war on terror? He said proudly to the WORLD “If you are not with us you are against us.” Recently John Rich of the group Big & Rich wrote a song and sung it loudly at the convention called Raisin’ McCain. I loved his line that says…you can get on the train or get out of the way.
At the GOP convention Rudy Giuliani said that Barack Obama is the most inexperienced candidate in the last 100 years. That’s debatable, but let’s say he’s right. He also said that Obama has never run anything. He also made light of Obama’s inner city work as a community organizer.
That’s another reason why black people don’t vote Republican. (There are some who do, but there are also some people who like fruit cake… weird; I know) in the black community a community organizer is on the front line trying to help in the inner cites. You can just as easily be shot working in some communities as in Iraq. The different is that community organizers go to the front line to help people without benefit of back up, bulletproof vests or weapons.
I know these attacks are to point out that Obama has no inexperience and should not be Commander and Chief. That’s fair. I mean his inexperience may lead him to ignore his military advisers, listen to false reports and start a war against a country that did not attack us. He will probably be so inexperienced that he will say he started a war because there are weapons of mass destruction there! If we don’t find any he won’t care he will just still keep pouring money and more importantly American lives into the war. MAN! You are so right; we don’t want somebody that inexperienced or stupid as president!! No we don’t!
I see your point! We need to get somebody as president who voted 90% of the time with our current president because the above scenario would never happen.
Well Mr. Giuliani and the rest of the right, for the sake of argument let’s say that Obama is the worst candidate in the history of the presidency. Let’s say that’s true. Let’s say that the “community organizer” is simply the most unqualified human being to ever run for President.
According to the polls, he is leading McCain. So what does it say that a black man with no experience who has never run anything is beating McCain?
It says that people need to be inspired. They are not falling for your fear tactics. They want change and will take their chances with the community organizer.
Wait, don’t be scared, Mr. Right. This is your chance to put Country first. When Obama wins (and he will) you can join him and make the country great again!
Can we? Yes we can!
No? Then you can get on the train or get out of the way.
USA! USA! USA!
Michael Davis graces the e-pages of ComicMix with a new column each Friday.
"When Obama wins (and he will) you can join him and make the country great again!"As someone with no say in this election (I'm Canadian, and we have our own problems), all I can do is hope that you are right. I'd really like to believe that Obama will win the election in a landslide… but then I also believed that Bush wouldn't see a second term.I watched as much of Palin's speech as I could stand (almost two minutes), and counted exactly three black faces in the crowd — one of whom I think might have been a security guard. I said to my wife "I wonder what Michael Davis would make of this?"(By the way, first time commenter, starting reading your columns a month ago, because I was a Milestone reader at the beginning and have always been interested in how the company came to be.)
Welcome Chris,One of my very best friends live in Canada. So-can either of you guys (Lovern I'm talking to you) give me some real estate tips? If McCains wins I'm moving to the great north.Eh?
I'll join you up there. Canada's a great place. Friendly people, wonderful weather, and their country doesn't turn on the whim of religious zealots like Book Burnin' Palin.
They may not be religious zealots, but we have our own brand of right-wing nutjobs in power.
Lovern and I would give you the same tips, as we live in the same city. Not sure you'd want to move up here, because if the Conservatives win a majority on October 14, we might as well be the 51st Republican state.If Obama wins, I might be moving down there!
I love you, man.
You never call, you never write…I wish I could quit you.
A lovely set of thoughts, Mr. Davis. Yes, the days of Lincoln's party are long gone. As a native Chicagoan, whose parents worked on the south side of the city for well over 25 years, I took great offense to "the party of inclusion" over the last 4 days. They took pot shots at my city, and worse than that, they degraded community organizers. I read in a response to that recently that community programs (like the ones Barack worked for and lead) rise in defiance to government's that don't care for it's people!More than that, the right wing's message that they believe in "the strength of our spirit" and that with smaller government comes less taxes, and more money in our pocket. Yet, here we are, crippled by debt created from a war birthed without fact…. in a recession! What are we supposed to do… give them MORE power so we can be MORE in debt? It's amazing to me to hear them double speak. Ever watch a documentary or news story where they interview a neo-nazi or KKK member, and how they speak so passionately about their values, and how right they all look while they dole out their redderick? It feels an awful lot like that right now.I could probly match your anger stanza for stanza this morning, but suffice to say, your points well made, and agreed with 100% over here in Chi-Town. And to think DC is about to ask Superman if he's Red or Blue. Lucky for us, Batman wears black.
Marc — and Michael — I was a community organizer in Chicago, before Obama was. I even spent some time in and around Altgeld Gardens doing drug education work, mostly out of the area churches. So, yeah, I found Rudy 911's comments to be personally offensive.But I've found Rudy 911 to be offensive for well over a decade now.(Note: "911" TM Rudy Giuliani. His Rights Reserved.)
After the Democratic convention, Obama got a one-point rise in the polls. This is a surprise, because as a rule candidates get several points bump after their big speech, because most of the time that's the first time actually have a chance to hear what they have to say (and more importantly, how they say it and how cute they are).After this convention, the candidates are in a dead heat again, which means McCain and the VPILF also only got a point bump.In short, for the third election in a row, the American people are deadlocked. You couldn't get closer to a 50-50 election if people walked into the voting booth and were presented with a large coin. As hard as they've tried to find candidates that wold stir up the populace, people are apathetic.Should Obama lose, it won't be for any massive conspiracy (though a series of books will be published detailing the conspiracy – prople love that stuff), but because not enough people casred enough to make it happen. That Eddie Murphy movie where he gets elected to Congress (and the fact that I can't recall its title speaks volumes about its overall quality) had a GREAT plot idea. He runs in the district of a congressman who had recently died, Murphy's character using his middle name so he can run with the same name as the dead congressman. He wins because most people just remembered the name of the incumbent and voted for him. Brilliant.Then there's the scene in Chris Rock's "Head of State" where the entire populace of a (white) suburban town in California runs screaming out of their homes for the nearest polling place when the news reports we might have the first black President.Two of the finest bits of political satire I've seen in any recent films.
The polls I saw had Obama and McCain in a statistical dead heat before the Democratic convention, with 45% to 45%. After the Democratic convention, I saw poll numbers of 49% Obama to 41% McCain. Some recent polls have put Obama up over 50% to McCain's 42%. Take a look at these stats: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pres…They seem to show a statistical dead heat going into the Democratic Convention. Obama gets a significant bump from the Democrats convention. And then Obama takes a hit from the Republican convention but is sill maintaining a convincing lead. McCain and Palin did get a small bump from the Republican convention. But it's not anywhere near what the Democrats saw. Currently Obama and Biden seem to have a clear, statistical lead. Of course that means nothing come November. What matters is whose supporters show up to VOTE.
Vinnie-you do realize that most times when there is a Black President from Hollywood the world is about to come to the end or some such other disaster is upon us. Deep Impact and 24 come to mind. Another film where there is a Black President the entire population of the U.S becomes morons. I can't for the life of me think of the name but that's the plot so help me. There a few more but I'm on brain freeze.
That would be "Idiocracy", with the magnificent Terry Crews. And the world is saved by a white guy – Luke Wilson no less. What a delightful observation. There's also The Fifth Element (Tiny Lister, another actor who never disappoints). But I wouldn't say James Earl Jones in "The Man" had a world about to go to pot.And let's not forget that in both cases on 24, the primary female associate of the black president would make Lady Macbeth seem like a Cub Scout den mother. Wow, talk about life imiitating art…
Idiocracy's a great movie — absolutely fantastic, with a moral and everything. I'm also quite a fan of Terry Crews.
"Idiocracy" is the film. It's by Mike Judge ("Bevis and Butthead", "King of the Hill") and if McCain gets elected I will know that it is a vision of the future.
BTW That Eddie Murphy movie where he gets elected to Congress is called 'The Distinguished Gentleman.' That movie was so bad it was good. I watch it whenever I catch it on cable.
The age of sexual consent in Alaska is 16. Nobody's going to jail. Bristol Palin's choice to have the baby is brave. But if Sarah Palin had her way, he own daughter wouldn't get that CHOICE. Sarah Palin doesn't believe women should have the right to make ANY choice, even in cases of rape, incest or where the mother's life was threatened carrying the fetus full term.Palin is a political huckster. She was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it. She said, "No, thank you," to building the bridge, but Alaska has kept the money the Federal Government had already given Alaska for it.Karl Rove is a snake who engineered the push polls in 2000 that implied McCain had fathered a bastard black baby. Those lies, those personal and racist attacks on McCain's family are far worse than anything that has been leveled against Sarah or Bristol Palin. Cindy McCain hasn't forgiven Rove. But John McCain has found it politically expedient to bring in Rove as an advisor. Yeah, let the Advisor to Bush help with the "Change we can believe in." Real smart. Frankly, I can't believe it!Rove is a lying sack of shit. Treasonous scum. And McCain thinks he can put "America First" while getting into bed with that snake.Both parties are running on "CHANGE." Both parties realize this country desperately needs a change from this Republican President and his policies. Rove was a key advisor to Bush.Now McCain expects us to believe he can be the engineer of change while pulling people like Palin and Rove along side him to help change things. That's just bull shit.America needs change. I firmly believe we can change. Yes, we can. I'm on that train. USA! USA! USA!
Bristol Palin's choice to have the baby is brave.Well, it was certainly somebody's choice for Bristol to have the baby…
Like I said, if Sarah Palin has her way, Bristol wouldn't get a choice.
That's right, in her world only the rich would have access to the family planning of their choice. The rest of us will have as many as G*d blesses us with. And if we can't afford them, their limited government will take them away to raise, lest poverty corrupt them.
Like she was able to jackass across the continent to have her latest baby when you or my wife would have birthed another Texan in those circumstances.
I think Mike Weber might be suggesting that Sarah Palin made the decision for Bristol Palin to give birth to the soon-to-be baby.
Yup
Aye, aye.
Damn Russ, tell us how you really feel. With regards to the 'age' of consent. The family value demigods would have everyone wait until they are married (unless you are gay then you just have to WAIT, forever ) to have sex. The fact that this kid was 17 (and maybe 16 when she started to DO it) and unmarried proves my point that you cannot regulate morality. Even in a home which is STACKED in moral judgement. I'm not kidding when I say I feel so sorry for the kid who is the father. Did you see the look on that poor kids face? He looked like he wanted to be anywhere but there for all the world to see. WHO does that?Who puts two kids on display who are clearly ill at ease with the lime light. Let's assume (because I don't really know) that he did NOT want to be there. Does anyone think he would have been at the family Thanksgiving if his soon to be momma in law was not trying to be V.P.?Here's what I find really funny. They dragged these kids out to show unity and family but the two heads of the GOP family are NO WHERE to be seen. The President and Vice President. Do these people really think that the country is so damn stupid that they can hide those guys and we will forget them?
You've pretty much said everything that's been on my mind. ESP?
Nah, Hannah, M.O.T.U.
…..you can get on the train or get out of the way.Well you don't have to tell me something twice. I for one am not getting on the Republican train and I will for sure be getting out of the way….all the way to my polling place to vote for Obama. This is my only chance to tell the Republicans how I feel about the past eight years they have been in office. I excercise my right to vote and vote I will in November (vote to elect Obama as our President).Michael thank you for such a well written …tell it like it is article. You may not think of yourself as a hero but I think you are HERO.
'You may not think of yourself as a hero but I think you are HERO.'Thanks Carmen, that means a lot to me. (insert something funny here)
"At the GOP convention Rudy Giuliani said that Barack Obama is the most inexperienced candidate in the last 100 years. That's debatable, but let's say he's right. He also said that Obama has never run anything. He also made light of Obama's inner city work as a community organizer."The GOP making light of Obama's work as a community organizer really upsets me. As an avid volunteer in community organizations for the past 20 years of my young existence, I have seen first hand how change can be effected in the working community. The same working community that the GOP says "elitist Obama" is out of touch with. President Clinton embraced the power of social change in a big way with his book "GIVING: How Each of Us Can Change the World."
Tatiana, someone on one or another of the blogs noted that "Jesus was a community organizer; Pilate was a government official."
Not a fair comparison…his dad got him the job.And no, you did not just compare, Barack Obama and Jesus Christ. Again.
'As an avid volunteer in community organizations for the past 20 years of my young existence…' Show off!! That's funny, I've been volunteering for 20 years also. Since I was 2.
Skipped a few years there, my friend?
Barak Obama was the President of the Harvard Law Review in 1990. That made him editor in chief of a staff of more than 80 editors. I would call President of the Harvard Law Review a bit or prestigious, executive experience. I wonder what Mike Gold thinks of that credential for Obama. Would managing a staff of 80+ editors be a difficult executive challenge?Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law in 1991. McCain graduated from the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis in 1958. Another prestigious school. But McCain graduated 894 out of 899! That's in the bottom one percent! I don't think of myself as an elitist. But seriously, the bottom ONE percent of his class? What is the Latin term for "the bottom of the barrel"? That's magna cum nada.Oh well, that's the grade I would give Bush for the last seven-plus years in the White House: magna cum nada.
Do you know what you call a man who graduates top of his class at Annapolis? "Sir".Do you know what you call a man who graduates LAST in his class at Annapolis? "Sir".All of this posturing about experience is really a load of dingo's kidneys. Just about the only thing I would consider as being even CLOSE to "real" experience for being President is being Vice-President. Everybody else is just looking at the job, and trying to find a way to apply the skills they have to the job.To a great degree, the role of President is a figurehead. They sign or veto laws (which can be passed anyway by congress or overturned by the courts), but a great odeal of the job is delegated to others. Selected properly, a Cabinet can allow a President to go through his term not doing that much at all (That set up is a gift to all of you – go nuts)The primary job of the President (IMHO) is to be the public face of the country. Like the Statue of the Unknown Norwegian in Lake Wobegon, he's the person that you look to to get a feel for how the country is going. A charasmatic person with a positive outlook for the country is going to get a different reaction than a shrill whiner who spends great amounts of time sayting how BAD the country is. So based solely on that, I do think Obama would make a better President, since he is undeniably charismatic and inspires hope.But the real work of the government is done by the congress and the President's cabinet. Ideally, they should all work together, but since everyone's more interested in scoring points (so they can be re-elected) than they are in getting stuff done, not a lot really gets done. The recent Bush years notwithstanding (War tends to change the rules a tad), I believe the Republican/conservative fiscal model (smaller government, less taxes, less controls on business) results in more prosperity than the Democratic model. I don't know ANYONE who's suggesting getting rid of Welfare or Medicare, completely privatizing Social Security or any of the things Democrats love to claim. (For the record, I'm more liberal on social issues, which technically makes me a Libertarian, but I prefer to call myself a Republican because I'd rather be associated with a party that stands a 50-50 shot at winning)The best solution is usually a bit of both systems, but that's not going to happen any time soon, because both sides are too worried about seeming like they "lost" if they admitted the other side had some good ideas. Show me a person who can actually convince both sides that by working together EVERYBODY looks good and we all "win", (as opposed to everybody placing or tying for first) and I'll vote for them in a twinkling.Alas, being born in Canada, it cannot be me.
Sorry Vinnie, but if you look at the record here in the U.S. the economy does considerably better under the Democrats. Under the Republicans those at the very top do very well, under the Democrats everyone including those at the top do better. And if you don't think this group of Republicans don't want to get rid of welfare or privatize social security and medicare and medicaid you have not been paying attention. That is exactly what the neo-cons want. They hate government and want to get rid of as much as they can while turning the rest over to their buddies to run-you know like Hailburton which has done such a bang up job rebuilding Iraq while electrocuting our soldiers in the shower among other things.
"I wonder what Mike Gold thinks of that credential for Obama. Would managing a staff of 80+ editors be a difficult executive challenge?"I ran a couple of DC editorial meetings for Dick Giordano, and I attended what seemed to be one thousand endless editorial retreats. And NONE of those editors were lawyer-wannabes. So, yeah, Obama's aces in my book!
great post!right on in every way!ever consider running for public office?denys c.
Yeah, I wish. Whoever did my background check their head would explode. Yours to now that I think of it.
B L A M !!!!!
*picks up pieces of dead fact-checker* Ewwww.
It'd be a really weird world if Michael were running it. But it'd be really interesting.And, well, pretty late…
You know as popular as Obama seems to be I inevitably find myself always stuck in political conversation with staunch republican supporters (maybe because I live in the “great commonwealth” of Kentucky… HELP!). I usually welcome these debates but lately it seems that “Bush’s Buddies” as I like to call them are becoming increasingly aggressive about the fact that they believe McCain should be the next president nominated. It’s highly frustrating (as I’m sure you agree) to try and talk sense into these obviously extremely deluded people. I said all of that to simply say this. I have been overwhelmingly entertained by the things I read in this posting. And maybe entertained is the wrong word, but I’m not sure how else to explain exactly how happy I am having read it. It’s comforting to know that I’m not the only person in America who can read through the BS that was shown on TV during the RNC.I can’t understand how people were so ready to impeach Clinton for something that I don’t believe affected his ability to do his job, but were hesitant to even say anything when Cheney shot someone in the face (and then got HIM to apologize for what Dick Cheney and his family "had to go through"!! – WHAT?!). Anyway, I started rambling… my point is, if by some random twist of whatever McCain wins (or steals) this election, well, just save some room on the bus for me because I’m moving to Canada also.
Welcome aboard Taisha. Looks like we will need a big bus.
WOW! To say I am insulted by this cartoon would be a gross understatement. I come here to ComicMix to read COMIC BOOKS, and about COMIC BOOKS and all I have read over the last few weeks are political swipes…Most of them being dominated by the "Pro-Obama" crowd.There is a reason that most celebrities, writers, and artists should focus on their craft, rather than wax political science philosophy. Especially considering that most of them, don't even know from which they speak, and in the process, lose 50% of their audience. If I wanted to read about the latest presidential race, I would turn to the newspaper, or cable news. I WANT TO READ ABOUT THE INDUSTRY THAT I LOVE…COMIC BOOKS!!!I beg and implore all of you contributors here at ComicMix…Please, please, please stop confusing this site with a place like "MoveOn.org".
Late to this party , but Bravo, man. And yeah, you're pretty much preaching to the choir, but several of your points I've stated almost verbatim to a couple of Republican (yeah, I'm almost ashamed, but I can't disown them) friends…one of whom just made history as the first Black Republican delegate for SC…."Let's not get into the Lincoln lie, and even if that was the case…that was 150 years ago man!! What the heck have they done for the disenfranchised since??" And, "Yo, man… ya'll couldn't give sister Rosa and Martin any love? At all??" And as far as the Rovian set piece…. I could almost kiss Matt Damon…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6urw_PWHYkDecisions made in the best interests of our country, my a**.