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mike weber (6:07 PM on Wed May 6, 2009)

Okay, Setting any part of "Threepenny" in 1910 is a Bit Odd, since major parts of the plot revolve around Victoria's coronation.

I wonder if the songs are actual "Threpenny" songs, since i would assume that it's still in copyright; certainly the Blitzstein adaptation is, and when they wanted to do a new translation/adaptation* for Shakespeare in the Park in the 70s (80s?) (with Raul Julia as Macheath), they had to clear it with Weill's widow, Lotte Lenya (the original Jenny Diver, BTW).

*I suspect that the reason it was felt a new adaptation was needed is that the Blitzstein version is believed (wrongly) to be a bowdlerisation; in actuality, it was Mike Curb at MGM Records who insisted on extensive cuts and rewrites in the lyrics when the Original Cast album was recorded. (Another Fascinating Fact: That OC album features John Astin and Paul Dooley as two of Macheath's men, and Bea Arthur in a major role...)

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RDaggle (12:11 PM on Thu May 7, 2009)

I haven't seen this comic yet, but -

The Threepenny Opera was based on an even earlier musical called the Beggar's Opera. From the 18th c., it had a Macheath, Polly, Jenny, Suki, etc.

Could this be what Moore is referring to in his 1910 storyline?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beggar%27s_Opera

(not that he wouldn't shrink from subverting the very fabric of space-time, but , y'know ...)

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Andrew Wheeler (4:12 PM on Thu May 7, 2009)

That's a nice theory, but...the internal title of this story is "What Keeps Mankind Alive," and that's clearly a reference to the Brecht/Weill version of the story.

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mike weber (7:27 PM on Thu May 7, 2009)

That's the "Second Threepenny Finale" (i think) - the first and second acts end with songs sung in front of the curtain by characters; it's pretty well breaking the fourth wall because they're basically singing directly to the audience.

And to drive home the moral of the song, that one is sung by Macheath and his mother-in-law (more or less) Mrs Peachum, who, with her husband runs a protection racket among London's beggars, and is trying to get Macheath arrested and hanged so that they can marry off her daughter, Polly, to some rich old Lord:

Mrs Peachum sings:

you warn us, with appropriate caresses
that virtue, humble virtue, always wins
now please, before your moral fervor presses,
our middle's empty - there it all begins!
all you who dote on our despair and your desire
may learn the simple truth from this our song -
whatever you may do, whatever you aspire,
first feed the face - and then talk right and wrong!
for even saintly folk may act like sinners
unless they've had their customary dinners!

spoken, by Macheath:

what keeps a man alive?

what keeps a man alive?
he lives on others
he likes to taste them first
then eat them whole if he can!
forgets that they're supposed to be his brothers ...
that he himself was ever called a man!

remember, if you wish to keep alive -
for once do something wrong, and you'll survive!
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(Called "How to Survuve" in the Blitzstein version)

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mike weber (7:31 PM on Thu May 7, 2009)

Doubt it; "Beggar's Opera" was a satire of the current Government - Walpole's, i think, while "Threepenny" is basically a Marxist attack on bourgeois capitalism and the complacency of the mddle class.

Brecht and Weill sound more like people Moore would be referencing than does Gay.

(BTW: The original "Beggar's Opera" was quite popular in its day - the impresario who ran the theatre/company where it was staged was named Rich - and it was said that "The Beggar's Opera"'s success "...made Gay rich and Rich gay."

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Jody Macgregor (6:14 PM on Thu May 7, 2009)

I would have liked more review and less summary.

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