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Vinnie Bartilucci (10:12 AM on Thu Sep 11, 2008)

"Craps counts on luck and your gut feeling. You do your ritual, roll the dice, and hope."

Craps in an insanely complicated game - have you ever looked at the table? There's a way to win off every throw of the dice, based on the number of side bets, the pass line, all the other spots on the felt that are harder to understand than the blue lines in hockey. It's one of the most under-rated games in Vegas. People think it's get 7 and win, get snake-eyes and lose. Roulette is just as complicated, but it's got more of an air of dignity to it, not as much of that zoo-like atmosphere.

Besides, ALL gambling relies on gut instinct and hope. As Oscar Madison said, "There is no such thing as a sure thing; that's why they call it gambling." All games of chance involve odds and a lot of math, but any gambler will tell you there comes a point where you throw all the math away and go with your gut.

This is one of those "you can't win" kind of questions, the kind that means nothing but could be interpreted to mean anything the reader likes. If Obama had chosen Baccarat over Poker (or McCain selected roulette), he'd be accused of being an elitist again. And don't get me STARTED if either of them had selected Black Jack. I'll put money that they'd have said "Twenty-One", just to play it safe...

Heck, do we really want either candidate admitting they like to gamble?

And I'd never pick the roadrunner. The press conferences would get tedious. Either Bugs or Droopy. Penelope Pitstop as Secretary of State.

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Marc Alan Fishman (2:09 PM on Thu Sep 11, 2008)

Well Vinnie, I think as he clearly stated above... Craps is a game, at it's core, is one based solely on your ability to play odds. Poker, while also a game rooted in chance, has an extra level of complexity in that the final outcome of any hand there can be won with intelligence in addition to chance.

More so, John was using this question as a basis of metaphor, through which he stated his OPINION of the candidates.

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Vinnie Bartilucci (2:45 PM on Thu Sep 11, 2008)

I'm well aware of his intent. Sometimes it's fun to just comment on the top layer of an article, thus keeeping the discussion from descending into rehtoric. I was just coming to the defense of Craps, a game which has been much maligned and misunderstood over the years. A game which is much derided for its brute force and simplicity, when in fact there's quite a bit of skill involved in knowing the best way to react to the position one is in, based on the rolls and moves previously made.

I'll leave it to you to decide if I too am indulging in metaphor.

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