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Dan (9:55 AM on Mon May 26, 2008)

Great post, Mike. I read the editorial yesterday and was sickened by the pandering to the right by that political hack, Lieberman. Enough of our rights have been eroded by the Patriot Act in the name of fighting terrorism. We must continue to call people out who would deny even more of our freedom as granted by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and fight to get back the rights that have been taken away. Its the most American thing we can do.

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mike weber (3:00 PM on Mon May 26, 2008)

...those that were among the fortunate few who remained gainfully employed told their neighbors they were “commercial artists” or some such lest they be chased out of suburbia by an angry mob.

"Daddy is a crook, dear - he publishes "MAD" Magazine..."

As i said in a comment to a post about this over at PCMag, "Right - protect our freedoms by cutting back our freedoms."

Every time this sort of thing comes up, i am reminded of the line from the original "Spirit" story "The Awful Book" (retitled "The Awful Comic Book" and poorly rewritten for reprint):

"...on my way home, I encountered the school psychologist, Doctor Wolfgang Worry, conducting his weekly book-burning..." (or words to that effect).

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Russ Rogers (4:10 PM on Tue May 27, 2008)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW2YHBfRhVc

I found this take on Lieberman interesting:

Lieberman was the first indication that there were actually Republicans in the Democratic Party. Forgive my naivety, but before the series of betrayals by Lieberman against important progressive legislation... I thought people with his sensibilities, voting for the war, for the Patriot Act, and voting against Medicare benefits for a very severely taxed generation of elderly ill, and against the few ideological stands the so-called left has been willing to brush up against since Bush took office... here were registered Republicans. Herr Lieberman helped me realize there is not much of a fine line left between the middle of the right and the edge of the left. We have moved so far over that even middle America stands perched on one foot, with it's one strand of hair tossed across its frowning face, trying to straighten the coffee in a cup that will forever be leaning far too right to ever feel balanced again.

No good American can go out into the street today and not turn gray with nausea at the complacency of every single newspaper, financial institution, and influential individual in the conspiracy to keep this unqualified, uneducated, unelected criminal in office. Lieberman was an important candidate, and he, above all of them, is a turn coat who helped to nullify the potency of the left.

-Rickie Lee Jones
February 27, 2006

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2006/02/rickie-lee-jo...

Ah well, Rickie Lee Jones' opinion probably won't affect her career too badly.

And where were Lieberman and Bush when the public was being organized in a witch hunt against The Dixie Chicks? The Dixie Chicks were banned from country radio. Essentially CD burnings were organized. The band received death threats. What was George Bush's take on this throwback to McCarthyism and Nazi Germany?

Here's what Bush said: "The Dixie Chicks are free to speak their mind. They can say what they want to say ... they shouldn't have their feelings hurt just because some people don't want to buy their records when they speak out ... Freedom is a two-way street ... I don't really care what the Dixie Chicks said. I want to do what I think is right for the American people, and if some singers or Hollywood stars feel like speaking out, that's fine. That's the great thing about America. It stands in stark contrast to Iraq..."

In other words, in Bush's view black lists, book burnings and death threats are just part of the two way street of freedom. Yes, I'm putting words in Bush's mouth. But there should have been some official outrage on the part of the President to the hellish way the Dixie Chicks were treated for an off-hand remark.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dixie_chicks_shut_up_and_...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/15/opinion/15thu4.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

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Mike Gold (5:15 PM on Tue May 27, 2008)

Well, to defend George W. Bush here.. ("I'll take 'Words I Never Expected To Come Out Of My Mouth' For $500, Alex...")

Being a celebrity does indeed cut both ways. If you are going to use your celebrity to take a stand one way or the other, you are risking alienating those who disagree with you. I haven't gone to a Dennis Miller gig in five years. It took me a long time before I could watch a John Wayne movie, and I had closely followed Gary Sinese's career since his earliest days at the Steppenwolf Theater. And don't get me started on that rat Elia Kazan (well, except for A Face In The Crowd, which pertains to this very point).

I admire those celebrities who do take an educated stand -- in other words, they know what they're talking about and not merely camp followers. Even those with whom I disagree. They are putting their livelihood on the line for their beliefs.

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Russ Rogers (7:24 PM on Tue May 27, 2008)

A boycott is different than a blacklist. And not buying something or even quietly throwing something in the trash is different than a public book burning (or, in the case of the Dixie Chicks CD, steamroller parties). One is an informed choice, the other is the incitement of mob mentality. And cutting both ways should NEVER include crap like death threats. That's the time when the leader of the FREE world needs to step up and say, "Listen people, this is getting out of hand. We don't KILL people just because we don't like what they have to say."

The Dixie Chicks couldn't even BUY commercial time for their movie, "Shut Up and Sing," in 2006 because NBC didn't want to be linked with a controversy. The Dixie Chicks can't even buy commercial air time on some country radio stations to promote concerts. When does that start to infringe on free speech?

The Dixie Chicks never "made a stand." One of them made an off hand remark, between songs, during one concert. This was quoted out of context and given legs by conservative talk radio. The Dixie Chicks were vilified beyond rational logic. Anti-Bush, Anti-war, or any other political sentiment wasn't at the center of their art. Attempts made by the band to apologize for their remark, saying that the Office of President deserves a certain level of respect, were not met with any kind of similar gestures from the other side. Apologies didn't mean as much as the media creating super-villains.

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Mike Gold (10:07 PM on Tue May 27, 2008)

I agree with you in the specific, although you certainly don't need to establish a blacklist in order to piss off broadcasters who operate in fear of the FCC 24/7. And that's just what the Right thrives on -- fear.

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Paul Wargelin (9:00 AM on Wed May 28, 2008)

John Mellencamp did make a stand and put his livelihood on the line with his version of the song "To Washington" from his 2003 album Trouble No More:

So a new man in the White House
With a familiar name
Said he had some fresh ideas
But it's worse now since he came
From Texas to Washington

And he wants to fight with many
And he says it's not for oil
He sent out the National Guard
To police the world
From Baghdad to Washington

Mellencamp's views alientated many of his long-time fans, who voiced their anger and criticism on his website, and he found himself compared with Osama bin Laden on the radio.

http://dir.salon.com/story/ent/music/int/2003/06/30/melle...

I don't recall if the outrage against Mellencamp was as severe as what happened to the Dixie Chicks, but the executives of his--and the Dixie Chicks's--record label certainly weren't pleased with the song.

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Martha Thomases (4:59 PM on Tue May 27, 2008)

You might also find this interesting:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/joseph-liebe...
My mom would say, "This is bad for the Jews."

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Mike Gold (5:15 PM on Tue May 27, 2008)

Ha! Julie Schwartz would have said the exact same thing.

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