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Kathleen David (4:36 PM on Sat Jan 5, 2008)

Having eaten there a couple of times with Peter, I can tell you that Victoria and Albert's is not for the younger set and it has nothing to do with strippers or other things. Most of the people dining there are couples. They have a fix menu each night (so no chicken fingers on the menu and substitutions are not allowed). It is a nice quiet place with really good food and drink. And it is the same thing as the fact that on New Years Eve (the real one) you have to be 21 and have a pass to get into Pleasure Island. Not out of place I think at all.

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Kathleen David (3:14 AM on Sun Jan 6, 2008)

It's ridiculous to say that Disney World hates kids simply because there's one restaurant in the place that caters strictly to adults. V&A is, at its core, a romantic getaway spot over at the Grand Floridian hotel that is no more appropriate for kids than any other seriously upscale restaurant sans kid's menu would be.

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Mike Gold (9:19 AM on Sun Jan 6, 2008)

There's a difference between not having a kid's menu and banning kids from your restaurant at a place that is built around the exploitation of the children's market. You don't have to be Chuck E. Cheese to permit children.

The crux of this is the banning of well-behaved, properly raised children. There are plenty of children under 10 who are psychologically capable of acting in such a manor as to not annoy others. I see this as just another excuse to encourage parents to shirk their parental responsibilities. Check out Michael Davis's column (http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/01/04/i-like-sex-by-mic...) this past Friday: Be a Freakin' Parent!

The topless crack was just me being snarky. Damn, that never happens online, does it?

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John Tebbel (9:45 AM on Sun Jan 6, 2008)

I'd bet that such a parent, calling ahead and asking for an exception to be made, would be accommodated/fleeced. You eat in a private room, you wouldn't know if your neighbors were dining with a camel. Heck, at that age I was wearing a suit and tie half the time we ate dinner out and was dying to be appreciated by the grown ups, shunned as I was by the rude bullies my own age. Give me stemware or give me nurple.

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Ali T. Kokmen (3:53 PM on Sat Jan 5, 2008)

I can't quite understand why this is Associated Press-worthy news. Must be a slow news day.

Victoria & Alberts is DisneyWorld's highfalutin' 5-star eatery; I believe my wife and I had a romantic dinner there when we travelled to DisneyWorld as newleyweds. IIRC, it's their equivalent to Le Bernardin or Per Se or any similar ritzy 5-star restaurant. It may be a bit strange that they have to formally issue a age policy, but it shouldn't be surprising that any restaraunt so fancy as to have a dress code wouldn't want infants or babies in the dining area. Adult dining isn't always about topless dancers, after all. Sometimes adults want to wine and dine quietly in a nice setting with exquisite surroundings and over-the-top service.

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John Tebbel (8:55 AM on Sun Jan 6, 2008)

Place is sort of a parody of a fever dream of dinner in a restaurant; private rooms, "private" maid and butler "named" Victoria and Albert. Can't escape the carny feel, that they're doing this for a bunch of rubes who will never see the inside of a decent restaurant. If it's like Bernardin, I'm like
Superman. Kids would go nuts at the slow pace and echt-fancy menu. Night we went our party's kids were consigned to the kids-only Neverland Club for only slightly more than it would have cost to have sent them to the Stork Club. They got the better of it. Lesson is, if you're at WDW and you see an Adults Only sign, turn around and walk away, you can be an adult when you go back home.

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