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Rick Taylor (8:35 AM on Tue Oct 9, 2007)

I think the confusion started when the hero and the anti-hero started being considered the same thing. To me, they are two different things.

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Elayne Riggs (5:25 PM on Tue Oct 9, 2007)

The grim-and-gritty ship sailed long ago. I think it started happening more or less concurrent with Reagan's election, when the disparity between rich and poor started growing and the middle class begin shrinking. Perhaps without consciously realizing it, people started losing hope in heroes, both real and fictional, and those heroes started morphing into antiheroes.

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Rick Taylor (8:34 AM on Wed Oct 10, 2007)

I agree. To me there are the heroes and the anti-heroes. They are not both the same thing. Recently in comics and film, most writers have seen them as one. The hero has has 'bad things happen' and goes renegade (Hal Jordan, Anakin Skywalker) and buys into the 'dark side' and goes 'evil'. I never bought that. Which is why the last three Star Wars movies just fall down and shatter. I just don't buy the whole Anakin Skywalker to Darth Vadar thing. What happened to him just didn't seem enough to 'turn' him. It's too easy an excuse and just plain bad writing.

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