Rick Taylor (3:26 PM on Tue Sep 11, 2007)

Been my life for the past five or six years. Be politically correct, take everything out of context and by all means rewrite history to please the few. Thanks God the last episode of Dr. Who had the *!lls to stand their ground.

Mike Gold (4:02 PM on Tue Sep 11, 2007)

"*!lls"? Now we can't even say "balls?" Just try telling that to General George S. Patton (http://www.bob-west.com/PATTON-SPEECH.html).

Alan Coil (4:13 PM on Tue Sep 11, 2007)

Mike in an interesting typo, you wrote 'spinless' instead of 'spineless'.

Vinnie Bartilucci (4:48 PM on Tue Sep 11, 2007)

I'm assuming those two cartoons feature the Mammy housekeeper? I don't know my T&J from memory as well as I do my Looney Tunes. On Cartoon Network they just dub in a slightly less stereotypical voice and occasinally color her legs so she's wearing hose of some type.

That's an odd choice, as they chose to leave all the jokes in the Droopy collection, and put a big disclaimer card at the beginning of the menu, about how wrong the racial jokes were, but we're showing them anyway.

Marilee J. Layman (6:24 PM on Tue Sep 11, 2007)

I read a discussion of Tom and Jerry somewhere recently, I bet Making Light.... Yes, these comments are women saying they and their kids think the black woman is the homeowner because they have no experience of hired help. So maybe today's kids wouldn't think those were racist, as long as their folks don't tell them.

http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/009329.html...

http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/009329.html...

http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/009329.html...

Rick Taylor (10:22 PM on Tue Sep 11, 2007)

What next? Redubbing 'Green Pastures' and 'Cabin in the Sky'? Fixing 'Gone with the Wind'? No, it's history and should be kept in context. Like I said about the last aired Dr. Who episode, the 1913-era folks didn't even listen to Martha Jones and spoke to the Doctor. They didn't try to rewrite history. Hang on to those VHS copies of 'Song of the South'. You'll never see that movie again.

Lee Houston, Junior (11:06 PM on Tue Sep 11, 2007)

I'm not sure what there still might be to "fix" within the Tom and Jerry cartoons.
When Ted Turner had ownership of both the MGM library AND Hanna-Barbera Studios (circa 1994) William and Joseph at their own expense went back and hired an actress to re-record all the Housekeeper's dialogue!
While definitely not correct, politically or otherwise, today; H&B did try to address and correct the situation.
But historically the Tom and Jerrys, as well as a whole lot of other cartoons, should be represented as is.

Rick Taylor (10:47 AM on Wed Sep 12, 2007)

Thanks for the tip Vinnie,

I was merely trying to say you're not likely to pick up you 50th anniversary copy Song of the South DVD art Target.

:)

Alan Coil (4:32 PM on Thu Sep 13, 2007)

Vinnie---
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Citing wiki as a source? Maybe 5 or 10 years from now, but not today. I think Disney just chickened out because they were afraid of Political Correctness.

Vinnie Bartilucci (4:41 PM on Thu Sep 13, 2007)

Merely laziness on my part - heavily-hit pages like that are usually reliable enough for casual conversation.

Fair enough comment tho - here's a couple from Jim Hill's site:

http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/wade_sampson/archive/2005/1...
http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/wade_sampson/archive/2006/0...
(More on the reaction when the film was released)
http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2007/05/10... (seek half way down the page, tho the Frog Pincess story is very enlightening as well

Matthew Ceplina (1:16 AM on Sun Sep 30, 2007)

I find the censoring of classic cartoons due to political correctedness abhorrent. It damages the archival value as well as serving as a feeble attempt to sweep things under the rug.