A Matter of Opinion, by John Ostrander
So. I’m watching – and enjoying – the finale of this season’s Doctor Who. I’m a big fan of the time traveling Doctor and have been for years and his present incarnation, embodied by David Tennant, is one of his best. The Doctor is in a dire fix, as usual. This time, he’s trapped in the headquarters of his arch-foes, the Daleks, and at the mercy of their creator, Davros. A whole squadron of the Doctor’s companions and friends are trying to help him by a) threatening to blow up the Dalek HQ or b) blowing up the Earth itself, ruining the Dalek master plan. Like I said, the situation is dire.
Davros sneers at the Doctor that, while the Doctor himself doesn’t carry weapons and won’t kill, he creates friends and companions who will. He tells the Doctor that those companions are the Doctor’s weapons. The Doctor looks guilty and distressed as he considers, and seemingly accepts, Davros’ accusation.
Mind you, this is the Davros who has just enunciated his master plan of destroying not just the Earth, not just the galaxy, not just the universe, but all of reality except for the Dalek HQ. This Davros describes as winning and will prove the Daleks – and thus Davros – are supreme.
Which leads me to my thought of the week. Some people’s opinions really don’t matter. They just don’t. I’m not saying that people don’t have a right to their opinions or that they don’t have a right to express those opinions. However, there’s no rule saying that I have to listen to them. As I heard Steven Grant once say on a panel, “Opinions are like assholes; everyone has one.”
And, omigawd, are there assholes out there with opinions – especially now in an election year and especially here on the Internet! You don’t need to actually know about something to blog about it. Hell, I’ve proven that from time to time myself. What you need is a computer, a modem (preferably high speed), and a website. It doesn’t have to be your own website; if it has a message board, you can blaze away with your opinions at will. You don’t even have to use your own name so you don’t have to stand by your opinion. Wheee. What fun.
You can turn on the TV this very political year and get pundits without end whose only purpose – and the only purpose for their paychecks – is to spew out opinion. Let’s talk endlessly about American flag lapel pins as a litmus test of patriotism and loyalty – just as if it really mattered. Let’s get to the opinion in advance of all the facts or even in despite of the facts. Let’s discuss what, if any, impact the Russian tanks rolling through Georgia is going to have on the U.S. Presidential election. Who do we want taking “the call at 3 A.M.” about those tanks? As Jon Stewart pointed out on The Daily Show, there’s already a guy who’s supposed to be taking that call and he was over at the Beijing Olympics, patting bikinied female volleyball players on their backsides. Maybe either of the candidates would be better? However, I’m wandering off the topic. Yoink!
Most of the political punditry we see on TV boils down to a very simple equation: opinion = blather. It’s not as if there’s any other real news in the world going on – such as the tanks in Georgia. Besides, gathering the news on those other stories costs money whereas opinion spewing costs virtually nothing and is worth almost every penny. Wait, I forget. These are political experts. What makes them experts? The fact that someone asked their opinion. Who asked their opinion? The network that hired them. The words “circle jerk” come to mind.
New theory: the fact that somebody asks my opinion doesn’t necessarily mean my opinion worth anything. It means simply that I have a backside and some times things comes out of it.
Opinion comes down to this: who is giving you their opinion and why? Do they have an agenda? What is their track record? For example, there’s a movie critic who I read all the time and with whom I almost never agree. However, that’s useful. I know if this critic likes a certain movie, I probably won’t. Once in a while wedo agree. No one’s wrong 100% of the time; even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
No one is right 100% of the time, either. Someone whose opinion might be valuable in one area might be worthless in another. I, for example, know something about writing and especially writing for comics. My advice there would be based on something I actually know. Most financial advice I might give you, however, should be taken with a very large grain of salt. Actually, with a salt lick.
Ostrander’s Opinionated Theorem: on any given fact there exists any number of mutually contradictive interpretations, a.k.a. opinions, of what that fact means. Fact will be objective; meaning will always be subjective.
Do I listen to divergent opinions? Sometimes. Even if I don’t agree, listening to them can clarify my own thinking. I might also hear something or learn something that will widen my perspective. When the Iraq War started, my church sponsored a meeting – a forum – where everyone could make their views heard. I disagreed with a lot of them but I loved and respected a lot of the people who were saying them. No one walked away converted to the other person’s way of thinking but I think we all left respecting one another. I learned things.
And, as I’ve said before in other columns, I’ve always entertained the possibility I can be wrong. That said, I do consider the source of the opinion that I hear and if it’s from a megalomaniacal half man, half machine bent on destroying all of reality, I feel justified in disregarding what he says and I think the Doctor should as well.
Besides, I heard that Fox News was trying to sign Davros as a political commentator. They’re supposedly going to pair him with Karl Rove for election coverage commentary. That surprises me since I’d always thought Karl Rove was Davros.
Of course, that’s just my opinion.
John Ostrander is not Dennis Miller, but we could be wrong. Eventually.
Good thoughts John. Penny Arcade puts it best on their tee shirt: Normal Person + Anonymity + Audience = Total Dickwad. The days of great debate are over. One of the caveats of my life, the very reason my three best friends are indeed my best friends is that we have opinions; And we can debate with one another in a rational way. Do we change each others' minds? From time to time. But with a media circus that is financially built on back pocket lies… how are we to take pundits as anything OTHER than unfunny versions of John Stewart and Stephen Colbert? Frankly we shouldn't. Good opinions are formed with education, research, environment, debate… But no one really gives that much effort to formulate their own. Case in (comics) point: Final Crisis or Secret Invasion. One or two issues into each, everyone is polarized. Yes in the end, staying with a comic until the end in order to formulate an opinion is the right thing (if not the most financially stable) to do. I bought all of Countdown before formulating my opinion that it was an atrocity. Some people call me stupid for that… but I buy a comic to be entertained. If there is a seed of an idea I'd like to see thru, I'll pay another 3 bucks to continue. When there exists no seeds left, I leave. I hope one day, when I'm sitting on a panel somewhere in some obscure comic convention, someone asks my opinion, so I too, will feel important. :) Good article John… but that's just my opinion.
In my opinion, there are no "good"or "bad" opinions. Although some my perceive them as such.There are informed and uniformed opinions, but they are still only opinions which may still be interpreted by others as good or bad.Basically a good opinion is the one which comes closest to the one we have. However, I've often been impressed when someone is able to express their opinion in a manner which causes me to evaluate (and perhaps change) my own.An opinion is an opinion and it's not my place, or anyone else's, to judge someone based on what they believe.The only excepption I can see is when a person is in a position of authority high enough that their opinion can/will affect my life. Then it's more than a simple opinion – it's policy, and the fight is on. ;)My opinion – take it for what it's worth.
Actually, if someone expresses an opinion for me to hear/read, then it is entirely my place to judge it. And to have mine judged in return. It's called "the free exchange of ideas," and it's pretty much the point of free speech.
I hadn't thought of that. Point taken.
Well, right after Russia invaded Georgia and hundreds, maybe thousands, were killed, my first thoughts weren't,"How will this affect the upcoming Beach Volleyball game between Russia and Georgia?" I'm sure glad there were professional commentators and broadcasters ready to expand my consciousness.Now I wonder, how much the withdrawal of Russian troops was motivated by the defeat of the Russian Volleyball team by the plucky Georgians, especially after being down a set? The final score 21-10, 20-22, 12-15. Some have tried to taint the victory, claiming that the team that beat Russia weren't really "Georgians." Is that just sour grapes?The Georgian team, Chagas and Santanna, are actually Brazilian by birth but recently obtained Georgian citizenship.They are competing under the Georgian names of Rtvelo and Saka, respectively, which, when combined, form the Georgian-language name for that country. As if they had changed their names to "George" and "Gia." Cute, eh?Now if only Home Depot or some other agent for the good ol' USA could convince Gold Medalist, Synchronized Divers, Wang Feng and Qin Kai to emigrate and change their names to "United States" and "Of America," we could have a winning diving team four years from now!Turning toward politics. Here in Minnesota, SNL and Air America Radio alum Al Franken is running against Bush-Lap-Dog Norm Coleman for US Senate. I would have only considered an article Franken penned for Playboy magazine eight years ago "off-color satire," but I've been repeatedly reminded by Coleman's campaign that while Coleman has been a faithful public servant for decades, Franken was off writing "juicy porn." It's finger-paint politics. Fine details on the issues don't matter, just smear, smear, smear! Whoever can create the more distorted and evil looking charicature of the other candidate WINS! And yeah, I called Coleman a "Lap-Dog." I'm not above occasionaly being a hypocrite.
Screw that. I'm voting Davros / Rove for President.
"…Davros who has just enunciated his master plan of destroying not just the Earth, not just the galaxy, not just the universe, but all of reality."As Lord Cumulus (John Heard) said to Prince Chaos (Tom Towles) in the classic Stuart Gordon / Bury St. Edmund play Warp, "Blow up the universe? Where are you going to live?"I should use this as an opportunity to plug the upcoming Munden's Bar story by Stuart Gordon, John Ostrander, and Mike Vosburg… but I wouldn't do that.
You can't be talking about THE Stuart Gordon, founding artistic director of the Organic Theater Company in Chicago. Why that company debuted "Warp!" a sci-fi musical that was later adapted into a comic book for First Comics. (Remember them?) Was "Warp" the FIRST First Comic? OTC also premiered "Bloody Bess," a swashbuckling saga written by William J. Norris and John Ostrander. The younger Ostrander made his comics writing debut in a tiny Warp back-up, "The Dogs of War." (I'm doing this from memory. I'm a fan.) Why the Organic Theater Company even premiered David Mamet's "Sexual Perversity in Chicago," which was adapted to the big screen, but never made it to a comic book. Hey, what about a "Bloody Bess" comic!Why Warp was the comic that gave us "Cynosure," the greatest locale/plot device comics has ever seen. Better than the Phantom Zone. Better than the Bottle City of Kandor. Better than Gotham City! Yeah, I said it. My opinion! In your face, Kandor!And Mike Vosburg. Hmm. Voz created Zombie Love and Lori Lovecraft. Hmm. Worked on a little TV show called, "Tales From the Crypt." Won an Emmy for animating Spawn. Really. Wow. I see dead people.OK. Voz did Tales from the Crypt, Zombie Love and Lori Lovecraft. And Gordon is responsible for writing (again with Norris) and directing the horror classic, "Re-Animator." Maybe Zombies in Munden's? I guess we've seen Zuvembies. Why not! Gristly, ghastly, horror/sex/humor? All right. I'm hooked. When? When? When?
A painting of a stopped clock is also right twice a day.
Your comment reminds me of a game we played when I was young. Since 11:11 was the only time of day (twice) where all of the numbers were the same, at 11:11 AM, we would stop what we were doing for exactly one minute and wildly dance aroung the room. It was crazy, but a lot of fun.
My wife says, "Eleven-eleven, make a wish!" It's like "find a penny" or "Slug Bug."And a stopped clock is EXACTLY right twice a day. A running clock is only approximately right most of the time, but rarely exactly right.
A clock is a timekeeping device. If it is not running, it is no longer a clock, but a piece of junk. It may be salvageable, at which point it becomes a clock again, or it may be kept for use as a door stop or a conversation piece, but it is no longer a clock.
Alan,You've just contradicted yourself. According to your post at the beginning of this thread: "A painting of a stopped clock is also right twice a day." Now you've said: "If it is not running, it is no longer a clock, but a piece of junk." If a stopped clock is no longer a clock, then it can't be right twice a day.By the way, in my opinion, a clock is a clock whether it is running or not – just as a car is a car whether it is in use or in the garage, even though it is meant for transportation
A picture of a clock is not a clock. It's a picture. IMO. A picture of a car is not a car. You can drive a car. A pixture of naked woman is not a naked woman. You can. . .I think I'll stop right about here.
Well, since a picture of a clock is not a clock, it can't be "right twice a day."
By the way John, I love the length you went to with your post ;)
Repeating: A clock, a time keeping device, is no longer a clock if it is not keeping time. Even more so if it is a digital clock. ;)The hands of a non-working clock may be in a position that is representative of a moment in time, but so are the hands of a clock in a picture.
As René Magritte would say, "Ce n'est pas une horloge."But it's a hard argument for a writer of fiction to make. Sometimes the representation of something is all that makes it real. "GrimJack" is not a hardboiled detective in a pan-dimensional city that lies at the nexus of all reality. It's a comic representation of a fiction of the Platonic Ideal of what a hardboiled detective in a pan-dimensional city that lies at the nexus of all reality might be. The only thing that makes "GrimJack" real is our willingness to believe (or suspend our disbelief) that "A picture of a clock IS a clock."This reminds me of one of my favorite jokes: A traveling salesman's car breaks down in the middle of nowhere. He ends up walking across miles of fields, trees and brush. He comes across a farmer in an apple orchard, holding a small pig in his arms. The farmer is lifting the pig up so that the little oinker can eat the apples right off the tree! The salesman is so struck and confused by this bizarre image, that forgets about his car. He sits down and watches the farmer hoist the pig from apple to apple for more than an hour. Finally the salesman says, "Excuse me. Uhm, wouldn't it take a lot less TIME if you just shook the tree and let the apples fall to the ground? Then the pig could just scurry about and eat all the apples he wants." The farmer takes off his hat, scratches his head and thinks for a minute. Then he says, "Yeah, but…what's time to a pig?" I don't know what it means. I just think it's funny.Sync two atomic clocks and set them next to each other for a year. After all that time, they will still be in sync. They will still agree on the time. But, take one of those clocks and fly it around the world on a jet. Bring it back to the same exact spot and the clocks will no longer agree, one will be "younger," relatively speaking.Time is squishy. It varies with gravity and speed. Here's an amazing article about a father who did a general relativity experiment with his kids on vacation! http://www.wired.com/print/science/discoveries/ne…And time isn't nearly as fluid as semantics or opinions.
Dave, I didn't contradict myself. The first statement was offered as a blatantly illogical statement for the purpose of argument.
Alan, I kind of thought that might be where you were going with your first statement. Thanks for clearing that up.By the way, it looks like you got a bit of the argument (discussion) you were looking for. :)
"You can't be talking about THE Stuart Gordon, founding artistic director of the Organic Theater Company in Chicago."Sure I can. Why not?"Why that company debuted "Warp!" a sci-fi musical that was later adapted into a comic book for First Comics. (Remember them?) Was "Warp" the FIRST First Comic?"Yup. But some of us — Joe Staton, Bruce Patterson, and me — did a comic book before that called "Weird Organic Tales.""OTC also premiered "Bloody Bess," a swashbuckling saga written by William J. Norris and John Ostrander. The younger Ostrander made his comics writing debut in a tiny Warp back-up, "The Dogs of War." (I'm doing this from memory. I'm a fan.)"Yep."Why the Organic Theater Company even premiered David Mamet's "Sexual Perversity in Chicago," which was adapted to the big screen, but never made it to a comic book. Hey, what about a "Bloody Bess" comic!"John and I discuss this concept roughly every Tuesday and Friday."Why Warp was the comic that gave us "Cynosure," the greatest locale/plot device comics has ever seen."We thank you for that. "We," including Rick Oliver and Peter B. Gillis and Joe Staton, who were in on that meeting. But Cynosure is "owned" by GrimJack."And Mike Vosburg. Hmm. Voz created Zombie Love and Lori Lovecraft. Hmm. Worked on a little TV show called, "Tales From the Crypt." Won an Emmy for animating Spawn."Mike also drew the Blackhawk Special that John and I plotted in a Norwalk CT restaurant back in the day. Sitting in a crowded restaurant, avidly debating JFK and RFK and mafia conspiracies. Long before the Department of Homeland Security…"Voz did Tales from the Crypt, Zombie Love and Lori Lovecraft. And Gordon is responsible for writing (again with Norris) and directing the horror classic, Re-Animator. Maybe Zombies in Munden's?"Nope."When? When? When?"Ah, that would be telling…!
Can't blame a feller for getting a bit excited and guessing. Even if it ain't Zombies, Gordon + Ostrander + Voz = Munden's still sounds like a formula for success. Just my opinion. Rock on!
Weird Organic Tales. Yowza! Just sixteen pages. Like a mutant cross between Rocky Horror and the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers. A giveaway too! And to think that contained the seeds of First Comics and maybe even ComicMix. http://www.oddballcomics.com/article.php?story=ar…
At my own web-site last week, I wrote a post that centered around this idea (and a couple of others). Basically, I said that if someone's bothering you with their opinion or stupidity, step back and ask yourself if their remark is really worth it and if it will still affect you five years from now. If not, screw it. It's not worth the stress.
I learned that lesson a long time ago when someone asked me that question. I'm a lot less stressed now.
Oh, I get it. The answer is: You can't tell if a clock in a painting is running or not.Where's my prize?